Kieffer Saddle For Sale
Kieffer Dressage Saddle

The Kieffer saddle tree ‘Exclusive’ (with gullet plate) is characterised by an open, distinctive cut back pommel, a curved form as well as longer tree tips. It is well-suited for normal to high-withered horses with normal to curved backline. Best Answer: You can try emailing them with the serial number as well as photos of the saddle: info@stubbennorthamerica.com General Age of Saddle 1 Look at the front of the saddle's flap. If it is covered in suede, it was made before 1994.

Serial Number FAQ
French Saddle Serial Number Deciphering
Decoding Examples
‍CWD: SE 0217 TR 2C PL 08 4223
SE02 = saddle model
17 = size of the seat (sometimes run small)
TR = seat depth
2C = flaps
08 = year of manufacturing (2008)
4223 = item number of the year
‍Saddle Models: all referenced here http://www.cwdsellier.com/us/en/boutique/saddle (just look at the bottom of each picture for the reference codes for each saddle)
Seat Depth: TC is flat, TR is half-deep, XTR is deep
Flaps: Length goes from 1 to 5, 1 being the shortest. The letter following the length number describes the angle of the flap; C being more forward while L is standard (more straight).
‍Antarès: P A1 17 E 09 602
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P = seat depth
A1 = flap
17 = seat size (generally true to size)
E = tree width
09 = year of manufacturing
602 = item number of the year
‍Seat depth : P is flat, SC is half-deep, C is deep
Flap: Length goes from 00 to 5, 00 being the shortest and 2 being standard. The letter following the length number describes the forwardness of the flap; N being standard (more straight); A slightly forward, AA forward and AAA very forward. There are also specialty flaps, like AB (low advanced which is forward with a lower forward curve), NB (normal with a lower curve), D (dressage, which is a flap on a jumping saddle with a straighter cut)
Tree width: E = narrow, N = standard, L = wide, XL = extra-wide. Sometimes : AO = Arcade Ouverte = wide tree
Sometimes, additional info such as “M10” = a panel designation that means they’ve added 10mm (or 1 cm) of extra padding above and beyond the standard panel.
‍Amerigo : 175N12340113 M 4 LHI
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175 = seat size (usually true to size)
N = flap
1234 = item number of the year
0113 = Date of Manufacture (January 2013)
M = tree width
4 = panel volume
‍Flaps : short = K, normal or regular = N, long = L, extra long = XL. If the flap has a forward angle, there is code “SW” added.
Tree widths : Narrow = -1.5, Medium = M, Medium Wide = +1.5, Wide = +2.5, Extra wide = +3.5
Panel Volume: Each saddle is made with wool flocked independant panels that can be chosen in different volumes 2 , 4 (and in Dressage Saddles 6 as well). 4 is standard.
LHI – If you see this code in any Amerigo serial number, this means that the saddle has been made with an extended head iron. The longer head irons are suitable for horses with longer, hollow withers.
Saddles made 2009 or after have also been stamped with a code indicating the model. Please refer to the link for the full list of codes. https://www.amerigo-saddles.com/eshop/products/50230/download/amerigo_saddle_codes.pdf
Butet: C18 2 1/4 925 07
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C= seat depth
18 = seat size (generally they run large)
2 1/4 = flap
925 = item number of the year
07 = year of manufacturingSeat depth : P is flat, L is half-deep, C is deep
Flap: 1 is standard and 2 long, 3 is extra-long. The second part describes the forwardness, 1/4 being slightly forward and 1/2 more forward.
Tree width: E = narrow, N / S = standard, W = wide, XL = extra-wide (if not mentioned in the serial number, this means standard tree)
‍Childeric
18 = seat size (generally they true to size)
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FLAP
1 – short
1.5- short forward (1A on newer models)
2 – regular
2.5 – regular forward (2A on newer models)
3 – long
3.5 – long forward (3A on newer models)
4 – extra long
4.5 – extra long forward (4A on newer models)
‍Devoucoux
‍Seat tends to run true to size, in my experience.
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flap lengths 0 through 5.
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4 “grades” of forwardness, with D being the straightest, no letter associated with the flap length being standard, A being forward and AA being very forward. additionally also B (lower curve)
‍Delgrange: 12 1090 A 17/3L 2
12 = year
1090 = item number of the year
A = model (seat depth)
17 = seat size (often run small)
3 = flap length
L = forwardness
2 = knee padding thickness
‍Model / Seat depth : R = Rivoli = very flat. A = Athena = flat. P = Partition = semi-deep. V = Virtuose = deep. E = Edea = extra deep
Flap length : They go from 1 to 6, but Delgrange indicates relative flap lengths, not absolute flap lengths as other manufacturers do. This means a 3 flap on a Virtuose 18′ can be a very different length from a 3 flap on a Rivoli 16′. Therefore, please refer to the measurement in inches we always provide.
Flap forwardness : R = backward, L = straight, A = standard, X = forward
Knee padding thickness : 2 = standard padding, 3 = slightly thick padding, 4 = very thick padding
Specifics of each brand

Antares
Antares has a reputation for offering excellent customer service on the saddles they make, throughout the life of the saddle.
Available in a range of seat depths.
Generally true to size in the seat.
Generally has a wider twist, but can be special ordered with a narrow twist (If you are a Butet afficiando, you might also like an Antares that has been ordered with the narrow twist option)
Foam
Butet

Butets tend to be narrower through the twist that other saddles and offer a very close feel, however, because they run slightly narrower they tend not to fit very large shouldered flat backed warmbloods as well as other makes. They do tend to fit normal to narrower shouldered horses, thoroughbreds and French bred horses very well.
Butets are available in a flat seat (P) or deep seat (L) option. Recently, a new deep seat (C) has been introduced, which is deeper than the L model deep seat.
Customers who normally ride in a half-deep seat in other brands typically find that the L model “deep” seat is the closest choice to this feeling in Butet.
Butets are typically available in whole seat sizes only in the US, though half sizes can be found in Europe or via special order from the manufacturer.
Butet whole sizes tend to run comfortably large. A 16″ Butet will often actually measure around 16 1/2″ or so. Therefore, most clients who take a half size in other brands prefer the smaller whole size in Butet. For example, clients who ride in a 16.5″ in other brands typically find that the 16″ Butet has fit them nicely.
If you are between sizes, ask me to take the measurement of the Butet you are interested in with a measuring tape. (Using the traditional center of the nail head to center of cantle measurement.) We can compare this measurement against your regular size or the saddle you are riding in now to assess whether you might prefer to try the smaller or larger of two sizes.
Flap sizes are indicated in the serial number as 1 for regular, or 2 for long (note that this varies from other French brands such as Antares or Devoucoux, where a 1 is short, 2 is regular, and 3 or higher is long).
Knee pads are typically fairly thin, for a closer feel of the horse
Butets are often popular with customers who prefer a more narrow twist. A Butet twist is generally more narrow than a standard twist in many other French brands. Some riders who have a round thigh shape find that a more narrow twist gives their thigh a nice place to “sit” on the saddle. In general, a narrow twist can help a rider to wrap the leg down and around the horse as opposed to feeling perched on top of the saddle.
Butets tend to be narrower through the twist that other saddles and offer a very close feel, however, because they run slightly narrower they tend not to fit very large shouldered flat backed warmbloods as well as other makes. They do tend to fit normal to narrower shouldered horses, thoroughbr

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